PW‘s cover story discusses the LOVE park issue and even mentions haveboard.com. I don’t understand why print articles that are published on the web don’t link to websites when they mention them.
The comments going on on that article are pretty ridiculous from both sides of the fence. Everyone seems to be taking ignorant, biased opinions from both sides of the issue.
If anyone has footage of the wedding incident in question or any other police brutality instances, get in touch, I’d love to post links or even upload the videos here.
PS: I can’t believe they posted those Phillyboy1213 videos.
I’m the only one with the wedding incedent footage! i wont post ! that would put a target on the skaters and ruin things_FC
Not again…
Seriously, not again. This debate does not deserve the level of intesity that people bring to it. Love park is just one skatespot. There’s plenty of other shit to skate in the city and elsewhere. Go out there and find it, or even better, build it yourself.
Fix! i’m not the only one with footage of that wedding i am pretty sure another filmer has footage !
so much drama is stirring up thou
pw has tons of comments
_FC
Thank you PW for running garbage and pushing the real issues under the rug.
“Skateboarding is illegal at love park”
Of course it is. Skateboarding is illegal in ALL of Center City and this topic has been beaten to DEATH.
Maybe next time you can actually focus on real issues within the walls of LOVE PARK; MURDER, Open air drug trade, violence, abuse of power by the police etc…
To all the Skateboarders on the message boards; When you resort to attacking the messenger instead of the message itself you have LOST the debate!
We may be angry and upset but think before you open your mouth. As a skateboarder YOU are speaking for the skateboarding community at large. If you can not form a solid argument or opinion with out sounding like a school yard thug, help in other ways. Record and post evidence of these officers and these events. The internet and hard evidence is a hard act to follow. Calling someone a “cocksucker” is not.
Cities need to take a cue from New York. You can skate anything, and nobody gives a shit.
my God…here we go again.
Skateboarding is not illegal in all of center city, according to the law (print yourself a copy to keep in your pocket when confronted):
http://www.phila.gov/philacode/html/_data/title10/CHAPTER_10_600_PUBLIC_PLACES_P/10_610_Skateboarding_Rollerbla.html
§10-610. Skateboarding, Rollerblading and Bicycling on Public Property. [95]
(1) No person shall use a skateboard in any of the following areas:
(a) the area bounded by Arch street, Fifteenth street, Broad street, and John F. Kennedy boulevard (the Municipal Services Building plaza and sidewalks); or
(b) on public property unless use of a skateboard on such property is authorized by regulation, ordinance or statute, or is otherwise authorized by the governmental agency, department of commission responsible for such property. “Public Property” does not include public roads, highways, bicycle and/or skateboard paths, or sidewalks abutting private property. “Public Property” also shall not include Recreation Department facilities, which facilities shall be subject to the rules and regulations of the Recreation Department.
(2) No person shall use a skateboard, rollerblades or a bicycle on portions of private property, including but not limited to outdoor plazas, that are dedicated to use by the general public, where the owner of such private property has posted a notice indicating that such activity is prohibited on that property pursuant to the Philadelphia Code and that violation of the prohibition may lead to confiscation and forfeiture of skateboards, rollerblades and bicycles used on the property.
(3) The parent of any child under the age of eighteen (18) years who violates this Section shall also be in violation of this Section.
(4) Penalties.
(a) The penalty for a violation of this Section shall be a civil penalty of three hundred dollars ($300), provided that the total amount of civil penalties assessed against a child and his or her parents shall not exceed a total of three hundred dollars ($300) based upon each violation by the child.
(b) An additional penalty for a violation of this Section shall be forfeiture of any skateboard, rollerblade or bicycle used in violation of this Section, unless it is proven to the Court by a preponderance of the evidence that the defendant does not own the item and the owner did not or could not have reasonably known that the item would be used in violation of this Section. Further the total amount of any penalty assessed for each violation, taking into account the value of both the fine and forfeiture, shall not exceed three hundred dollars ($300).
(5) Enforcement.
(a) Whenever a police officer has probable cause to believe a skateboard, rollerblade or bicycle was used or is being used in violation of this Section the officer may seize the item.
(b) Any person authorized to enforce ordinances may issue a ticket to any person in violation of this section, pursuant to the procedures set forth in §10-1606. Contested charges shall be resolved, fines shall be imposed, and payments shall be collected and processed by the Director of Finance and the Bureau of Administrative Adjudication, all pursuant to the procedures set forth in §§10-1604 through 10-1609. Notwithstanding the foregoing, any person to whom a ticket is issued may, within eight (8) days of receipt, pay seventy-five ($75) in lieu of contesting the violation and in lieu of any other fines or penalties. The ticket shall contain an appropriate notice to the recipient of his or her right not to contest the violation and appropriate instructions and procedures for payment, as prescribed by the Director of Finance. Upon timely payment under this subsection, the Police Department shall make any item seized under this Section available for return to the offender, pursuant to the procedures established by the Police Department.
(c) The removal of any notice posted pursuant to subsection (2) by anyone other than the owner, or agent of the owner, of the posted property shall constitute a separate violation of this Section.
Although cops are scum, the other guy brings up a good point about name calling. The best way to get back at them AND help others is to educate the public about what kind of people cops really are. Otherwise they won’t care if some cop was rough with a kid. They’ll think you did something to deserve it. We hear about brutality and excessive force issues but did you know how many cops end up in jail for domestic violence, sex crimes, lying, and framing innocent people?
Educate yourself and others on this issue. Read about it
POLICECRIMES.COM
NOTHUGCOPS.COM,
GAINESNET.COM/POLICE, INJUSTICEEVERYWHERE.COM, COPWATCH.COM, BEHINDTHEBLUEWALL.BLOGSPOTT.COM
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson
This site was started by a photographer, another group that gets hassled by cops. Ironic that cops arrest kids for illegal skateboarding when their brothers are the REAL criminals. What did your industry counterparts do within the last 24 hours?
http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/16/cops-gone-wild-a-24-hour- glimpse-at-police-misconduct-in-the-news/
someone sould get obama to speak out on it.. hes hip enough, right? i mean, he wrote out a kids absent note before, hes gotta be down with skateboarding at love, right?..
Well you need somebody big to step in but politicians generally don’t like to rock the boat and police unions have a lot of pull.
After re-reading the PW article I’m concerned. The captain states “We have to tackle them—they think it’s a game. I wish we had more officers to…put an end to this. They’re in the wrong.” Watch out, cause these are fighting words.
Cops are not the brightest people. He apparently thinks people skateboard just to tick off police. He doesn’t understand that kids are just trying to have fun and practice their sport. No, everything is about them.
And it sounds like he’s encouraging his guys to be even more aggressive–he’s marked skaters as a target. Beware, once cops label someone as bad, they can pretty much do anything to them without remorse.
Imho and experience, to gain insight into this mentality read about these sadists:
http://www.policecrimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4863
http://www.policecrimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2511
Why explode in anger over something stupid? Scratch the surface of the attitude problem and you might find they have “issues”…
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/07/980720081130.htm
So be careful out there when dealing with cops.
KILL’EM WITH KINDNESS…
I have a feeling I may either spend my GSD in New York..skating…or at Love Park, filming people getting chased around like animals…
This email is going around:
Sunday, June 21st, is Go Skateboarding Day, a nationwide event designed to promote skateboarding. In previous years Center City has seen a large influx of skateboarders especially in the area of Love Park, East and West Market Streets and in the vicinity of Independence Hall during this celebration. This event is organized by the International Assocation of Skateboard Companies and is held in cities across the United States.
The City of Philadelphia and the Philadelphia Police Department are aware of this event and the expected increase in skateboarding activity on Sunday.
Thank you.
Sent by Stacy Irving to (e-mail accounts) through Alert Philadelphia
I think I’m gonna bus it up to New York. Who’s wit’ me? Or am I gonna drift where the wind takes me?
drove past love park ….you don’t EEEEVEN wanna know where your tax dollars went today…
They went to cleaning up the water, didn’t they?